For those that are tired of the same ways of making money. For those that want something completely else to do, for those that want something different.


How to make gold in a boring, suicidal, ludicrous or other way, this new installment will hopefully cheer you all up with prospects in the future!

Today: Old sKool Raiding!

Yes raiding lvl60 and 70 content, though for different reasons.
lvl60 raids and dungeons drop parts of the first ever made dungeon set and 3 of those (waist, hand and wrists) are BoE, now I know what you are thinking, but seriously they sell! and they sell for about 50-100G a piece, if you are lucky and run MC with 2-4 guys (3 is the best tbh, 2 makes some mechanics finicky) you can get dungeon set 2-3 wrists/belt. that was the first EPIC set and the wrists and belt again are BoE these sell for about 100-200G a pop. Now include this with about 100G you get from the raid itself + another 100G for core of earth, hearth of fires etc. and you get between 250 and 500G for a run of an hour, This isn’t the “best” way to make money but it is fun! if you want some old gear for your self (I got my full dungeon 1 set on my hunter) or want to get an achievement or just want some fun, this is a good way to make an extra buck

lvl70 dungeons/raids are yet again a bit different. These drop a lot of blue/epic BoP items so money doesn’t come from them, but the bosses drop about the double amount of gold, a lot of greens on trash and some misc’s all around. The money is about 200G if you are running with more 4 guys, about 250 when you run with 3.
Other reasons to run this content is to get some really really easy reputation. If you want to complete your skillbook this is another reason to run these things. (Don’t forget that those patterns etc, can make you money if your lucky) Or do you want a new mount? go for the impossible drops and get a phoenix, a horse, a raptor etc etc…

As said the money isn’t all that, but it still makes you a nice buck, and is guaranteed to push your skills if you only take a min. of persons.

So if you want some gold, some fun, some skill testing, some “bonding” in the guild/friends, suicidal runs (your a lvl60 running with 2 lvl80 guildies) or just want to tag along while bored. this is the place to go.

I’ll see you next week ready to go again!

Seth,
A fortune starts with ONE and only ONE copper!

The new Drums and scrolls (kings/fortutide and more I thought) are actually so… not needed.
Granted for leveling by yourself it would be awesome but tbh at lvl80 you aren’t really lvling anymore. For 5 mans they are sweet too, but who wants to spent such gold on a pug? if 99% doesn’t take a flask (when undergeared, if that is even possible) why take a drum/scroll?

Tbh, there are so many Paladins and priests that for a raid it’s practicly worthless.
I have a leatherworker and the income of those drums is abmyssal. I had to repost 3(!!) times before 1 sold. No competitors even close to my figure (just above mat price+ ah fee + 1% profit)

I have checked the price on other servers, but ofc, don’t know how fast they are selling.

Right now I do not think its worth the gold and is ” a hole in my pocket”.

Grtz
Seth

PS: last day of recording on the podcast tomorrow. So that eve or saturday morning it’s up!

Well after the changes to jewelcrafting (purple gems) I thought, okaj its short lived prices will drop soon enough and the money youll make of it will be nought to 3G a gem….

I was sooo wrong and I love it.

Right now the basic epic gem costs: 100-150G on my server. (most hanging around 120G)
So this is expensive but who cares if have some start capital.

The best thing to actually begin making money is get:
Red gem 130G: +spellpower
Yellow gem 110G: +hit rating
Green gem 145G: +Intellect and MP5
Orange 125G: +hit and spellpower
Purple 100G: +spellpower and mp5

I sell those for respectivly: 180;200;200;170;170 gold… I sell about 10 each day…
(well starting so hopefully)
so small math =
50G x10 = 500G
90G x10 = 900G
55G x 10 = 550G
70G x 10 = 700G
——-
2650G

so 2650G – 400G+/- (relists+ ah costs) = 2250G (give or take a few coins) profit a day!
Yes the 2.2K gold is profit… total money in = about 10K and more…
which also means to do this you’ll need about 10K gold…
ofcourse some of these gems have little competition so you can start in smaller nr.s on these.

The best tip I have for you before you start is the following: Start with 1 gem of each colors since the same color doesn’t exactly enlarge your profits, it just makes the chance to sell bigger.

Grtz
Seth

Well after four tries of COS timed i finally got the bronze drake… 4 times…. did it every time and lost it: proves my luck in the game -_-

Oh well on the money making site: i lost 5K gold yesterday since I bought epic flying ofr Ari and got 1K on Sethcopper (getting bakc to 3K).

I also found that even with the fluctuated prices of titanium ore it can be still profitable with some luck. (got 3 epic gems on a stack) So maybe some of the gold of my banker is going to be redirected to that. rare gems are still selling, though in lower quantity and lower amount of gold it’s still profitable. Due to my sickness I also lost control over the red and blue gem market. Need to pick that up and push the price again.

Since I’m leaving on a short vacation. ( from sunday till thuesday) I won’t be blogging or gaming during that period. After that though…Well let’s say It’s possible that I will reveal part 2 of my master plan. Just because i’ve slacked a bit on the blogg. It’s possible but I’m not saying it’s going to happen for sure…
Also some screenies and video’s will be comming up again so have an eye on the blog for it!

Not money making related:
Myri, Damn your anti-Linux thoughts! And I hope you get your stuff back soon.
Driana, Thanks for Raiding with uss and following my blogg, It was… euhm interresting and fun ofcourse.
The Guild: Sorry guys, really need the brake in healthy conditions from WoW.
All the Readers, thank you for putting up with this waste of space and sorry that I slacked on blog due to many reasons (sickness, work etc) just remember that RL > WoW!

Grtz
Seth

As long as you get them out of the battlefield and in the sanctuary of Dalaran or Ironforge.

I waited with this post soooo long and I still don’t wan’t to write it, why not? Well I’m not following my own advice on this one. Still not… and I should really get started.

First off all lvl a DK to 65. Yes I hate them too, just grid your theet for 4 hours and take a shower after that, ’cause you’ll feel dirty and nubbish.
Second get 2 manufacturing skills on it. (JC and Inscription are both goodsellers)
Third: ? jk… get max skill.
Fourth: make gold.

Why Am I not doing this? Well to do this you need some seed cash or atleast a farmer.
I have neither, my shaman (lvl70) and warrior (lvl45) have the mining and herb skills. but both under the lvl cap, my main (for now) has Skinning so thats pretty useless since I have LW already. (and am not dropping it!)
The cash is also a drawback, i’ll need about 5K to get him up max proffesions. And since my banker is at 10K for the last two weeks and I’m not even going to try and make more money on him for the time being, I don’t want to spend that amount.

I’m thinking though that once Ari hits 77 I’m needing about 7K on her. so Once she’s there I’m going to get money again. Why not now? well.. RL, Raiding, Guild, Work etc. I love making money but right now it seemed like a drag, I did the same everyday, no niches in EU Ravenholdt-A whatsoever,
Maybe if Arï’s skill get maxed out…
goldfever has struck again!
*picks up pick axe and runs like a mad man!*

Hey all,

Remember when I said that Knothide leather sells well? Remember that I said to have a look at the AH competition, and that it should be quite low? Well a char of mine (Ariäni from Heroic totem)
Is alsmost done with Outland content, yes indeed 1 and a half more lvl of it. And I saw that it was the same for Fel Iron, Adamantite and really really good for Eternium.

Now this struck my interest a while back and I should have drafted it then, but as said most of this I write on the fly. Well some research later and I have come up with:

- Fel arnament sells gooooood and there aren’t many of those actually on the AH
- Ores, herbs and leathers are in low quantity on AH and sell reasonably fast. (personal experience: max 2 relists)
- for Alliance: Elemental and Resto Shaman Gear! Serious! If it drops put it on the AH, especially the lvl58-60 ones, one relist needed and sold for a nice profit!
- Paladin healing gear: not that much though mainly the hands, feet and bracers that sell, a lower profit as the shaman gear though
- Disenchanting: The mats for Outland are selling for a price that I can’t actually determin, on 3 servers 3 very diffrent prices, ranging from so low to moderatly high. Check your server for it.
-Aldor and Scryer reputation tokens (mark of kiljaeden) Sell fairly well, most by 1 or 10 get sold on the first listing.
- Gear req. lvl58 sells fairly well, as long as you don’t put up anything stupid (blablabla of the wolf)

What not to sell?
- glowcap mushrooms and armanents of UB/SP the mushrooms are payement for the Sporegar and the others are reputation for cenarion (I think)… Don’t buy them, too high of a price and they don’t sell.
-Gems…. Seriously Ariäni is a JC and made about 100ish gems green quality… I always put them on by 3 (so 3x +6str, 3x +6agi etc) the only thing that remotly sells are the +str ones thats it.
-self made gear: Made gear by a proffesion (ex: Drainic boots) Don’t sell at all, the quality is vastly infirior to what drops in the world, an dfor the blue items, you just need too much of mats (mats > good = loss)

I hope this were some good tips for the lvling Banker or player.

grtz
Seth

I still don’t know what to do exactly with the blog, my mind is twirling about the subject. Yes or No? Continue or stop?
But in the meantime I can continue posting some golden pearls… or at least the dust of adamantite.

One thing few Jewelcrafters and bankers realise is that lower lvl ore is quite profitable. And I don’t mean grinding it, i already said that a couple of weeks ago. What I mean is prospecting, A small example of my server is thorium ore. The prices are down to 30G for a full stack which is about half it’s normal price. This is a bussiness oppertunity not only for resale (for about 45G cause of the major competition) but also for the value it holds inside.

A full stack can be prospected about 4 times. And everytime you get a blue sapphire or large opal etc. Those gems go for about 10-20G a piece on my server, and most of the time you get 2 out of a prospect so lets say that we get 6 jewels and all sell for 15G….thats worth 90 gold… 3 times your investment! Thats something you don’t see on a daily base, 3 times the money you put in if you sell it back on the AH….

Now thats a goldmaking oppertunity for minimal time and effort.

Grtz
Seth

A fortune starts with one copper

Hey all,
Yesterday i checked prices from Mining materials on my server. And as we all know end-game mats of vanilla (thorium/mithril) are expensive. Now what i also saw is that (on my server atleast) they are worth more then saronite…
Saronite full stack = 20G
Mithril full stack = 50G
Thorium full stack = 70G

Even old gems are going for 15G a piece! some even for 30-50G (I’m looking at you Azerothian diamond!)
While I see hihglvl gems going for the same and even a lesser price!
So my advice for you: Are you lvling mining? or lvling a character? or just a high lvl miner and bored?
Try to go to some old locations with mithril/thorium (every 50-60 area is great! except for feralas) And see how much money you can make..
Ariäni lvld the past week, and while I didn’t go out of my way to get anything. I came up with 3 stacks of mithril that I couldn’t use anymore, and some stones and lowerlvl gems.
While lvling I made 250G just from those stacks. in a lvl 50ish area…
I don’t know if you remember but…250G was a big deal back when on vanilla. Now 250G is enough for a raidnight and thats it, but while lvling this can get you a long way.
So again, if your lvling or want to start it, get mining… It’s a pain in the ass from tin to iron (gap is quite big) but after that you’ll thank me.

Grtz
Seth

Ahhh yes, Heroics! they almost give you nothing in gold, or things to sell effectivly (since every 80 wants epics) and yet they make me hordes of money!

If youre a skinner and leatherworker do the following:
run Old kingdom, VH and Ahn’ketet something… every day!
why?
Well you skinn leather, chitin and dragonscales from there.
yes indeed most of these don’t sell for a lot of profit… about 20-40G for a full stack (server dependent)
BUT:
you can make ==> nerubian legarmor and even the purple icescale legarmors. These sell for 50G and 400G respectivly on my server.

Why running heroics then? (or even normal dungeons)
1) extra money while your doing it
2) chance of getting a boe blue
3) gearing up if your a Raider
4)to do something fun… if you don’t wipe half the time ofc
5) emblems of heroism => jewels => profit

So doing about 1h-2h of heroics, gives you 5 benifits!
True not all in the form of money, but still just to get your mind of a hards day work. I know that a lot of people refrain from playing the AH since they view it as an half hour of pure boredom. And this is my little tip from today to get your money from minimum AH-”work”.

Grtz
Seth

Okaj,
What i’ve heard from others is that there are real problems with flooding and goods that are too cheap.
Practicly they are the same thing (or the good has become worthless due new recipes etc)
I’ve already posted my solution somewhere else and got some good reactions on it so i’m posting it as a part of my blog.

So the goods are too cheap… what do you do?

- wotlk has been out for a while now and probably some gatherers have seen the prices and (not a bad) droprate from the Goods , so they are (mass) gathering it. Which in turn means that they are undercutting each other and pressing the price down.

or
- Crafters don’t have a real need for it, they craft other goods that don’t require it (or at least not a lot). This can effect the price (less demand) most probably they don’t need it because: other goods have more profit, price was too high, better gear, etc. Though some will still need it for skill up, haven’t got better gear yet, profitable again…

Personal solution:
i would say start buying slowly (very slowly like 1-5% of the market) each day. the Gatherers will see that profit is too low, and that it is selling badly and will eventually stop posting it. When the supply is limited again, start dropping the goods very slowly (at the rate you bought) on the market again. this will ensure that the price stays up for a while. If it starts dropping again, sell untill you aren’t making profit anymore.
rinse and repeat.

This tactic can mean though that you have the goods in your bank for a month or even more if the gatherer is really persistent (braindead). And you need another income to compensate for your investment. But in time it will pay up.

Grtz
Seth